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By dmg (Sat Jul 26, 2008 at 09:02:40 AM EST) (all tags)
Are you allowed guns or not in the US?

If you are, then what is the point of all the petty restrictions?



It seems almost as if the government doesn't believe in the constitution any more...
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We have the right to bear arms by wumpus (4.00 / 2) #1 Sat Jul 26, 2008 at 09:44:12 AM EST
the right to fire them is not listed, nor what constitutes a legal target.

Wumpus



surely it's implicit? by dmg (2.00 / 0) #4 Sat Jul 26, 2008 at 10:20:33 AM EST
What is the point of a gun if you aren't free to use it as you deem appropriate?
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It's illegal to stab someone's eye out with a fork by lm (4.00 / 1) #6 Sat Jul 26, 2008 at 11:36:39 AM EST
What's the point of tableware, then?


There is no more degenerate kind of state than that in which the richest are supposed to be the best.
Cicero, The Republic
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It is not however, by dmg (2.00 / 0) #10 Sat Jul 26, 2008 at 02:46:15 PM EST
Illegal to stab your lawnmower with a fork, which would be the more accurate analogy here...
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I don't know that it is an accurate analogy by lm (2.00 / 0) #11 Sat Jul 26, 2008 at 08:54:21 PM EST
Guns deliver an amount of force that most forks do not.

There is no more degenerate kind of state than that in which the richest are supposed to be the best.
Cicero, The Republic
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Forks deliver no force at all by MohammedNiyalSayeed (4.00 / 1) #12 Sun Jul 27, 2008 at 07:42:45 PM EST
Human arms deliver forks to eyes, which is actually not specifically legally forbidden.
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That's a typo by Herring (2.00 / 0) #14 Sun Jul 27, 2008 at 08:26:09 PM EST
It's the right to bare arms. It means you can, if you must wear those sleeveless vests but it says nothing (or, indeed, "nuthin") about carrying guns.

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Help us, georgeha by wumpus (4.00 / 2) #2 Sat Jul 26, 2008 at 09:58:09 AM EST
One of the advantages of a written constitution is that you can go down to the Archives (between and behind the History and art museums on the Mall) and check them. I think that all DC high officials need to make that field trip as they seem to have forgotten most of them.

Wumpus

PS. Mapquest let me down. Searching for the Archives misses it by miles and it won't let me copy a corrected link.



Too late by georgeha (2.00 / 0) #13 Sun Jul 27, 2008 at 08:24:30 PM EST
the only buildings we went into in DC were Visitor Centers for the White House, Roosevelt Memorial, Washington Monument, the National Museum of the American Indian, and the Federal Triangle Metro Stop.


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'Mr Walendowski appeared to have been drinking' by ad hoc (4.00 / 1) #3 Sat Jul 26, 2008 at 10:01:51 AM EST
ya think?
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It's right there in the article. by ObviousTroll (4.00 / 1) #5 Sat Jul 26, 2008 at 10:46:01 AM EST
"Anything not factory recommended would void the warranty,"

Actually, petty regulations is how the jerks who don't want us to have guns try to get around that pesky constitution. To wit, Washington D.C., having been forced to admit that its citizens have a right to protect themselves, has declared pretty much every pistol made this century to actually be a "machinegun" - which are regulated by the feds.


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nope, revolvers are legit in DC by lm (2.00 / 0) #7 Sat Jul 26, 2008 at 11:42:35 AM EST
While revolvers are almost certainly only a large minority of handguns manufactured this year, the remain handguns are hardly `pretty much every pistol.' FFS, haven't you watched the Dirty Harry Movies? Sheesh, an you call yourself an American!

Strictly speaking, they're correct. Automatic and semi-automatic pistols are, indeed, machine guns of a sort. Rounds past the first one are loaded into the chamber mechanically without any intervention by the user.

Having read up on DCs current system over morning coffee while I was there, it actually makes a good deal of sense to me.


There is no more degenerate kind of state than that in which the richest are supposed to be the best.
Cicero, The Republic
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To be fair ... by lm (2.00 / 0) #8 Sat Jul 26, 2008 at 11:46:53 AM EST
... I don't know that the US constitution includes `shooting your lawnmower' in the definition of `keeping and bearing arms.'

Most municipalities have rules on the book against firing guns within municipal limits outside of certain exempt situations. As someone who was raised around guns, I think this is certainly reasonable.


There is no more degenerate kind of state than that in which the richest are supposed to be the best.
Cicero, The Republic


Well if you can't shoot your mower by blixco (4.00 / 3) #9 Sat Jul 26, 2008 at 12:28:51 PM EST
your mower will shoot you. What sort of communist police state is that drunken mofo living in? The sawed-off shotgun is as American as the mafia, and gettin' drunk and shootin' things is what livin' free is all the fuck about.

Just last night I got hammered. I mean peeing myself wasted, for the love of fuck.  I was also armed to the teeth. So, I made my way to the weapons room at like 4am and grabbed the Remington 700 and my XD, and went out on the roof.

Picked off four riding mowers at a distance of 500 yards, and even got me one a those hippie pushmowers across the street with the .40 semi-auto.

It was fan-fugu-tastic, and I plan on doing it again as soon as I get over this hangover.
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An armed society by gazbo (4.00 / 3) #15 Mon Jul 28, 2008 at 07:06:32 AM EST
Is a tidy-lawned society?

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Could it be that the shotgun . . . by slozo (4.00 / 1) #16 Mon Jul 28, 2008 at 08:14:55 AM EST
. . . was deemed an illegal firearm because it was altered - that is, sawed off? Or perhaps they just arrested him for disorderly/threatening behaviour (neighbours being scared by crazy behaviour).

My guess is, he was arrested for Fashion Crime 5.1 section 2D - Manaical Hairstyle.

 



street-sweepers are indeed illegal by greyshade (2.00 / 0) #17 Mon Jul 28, 2008 at 05:00:43 PM EST
In the United States, it is illegal for a private citizen to possess a sawed-off modern smokeless powder shotgun (a barrel length less than 18 in. or 46 cm and an overall length less than 26 inches) without a tax-stamped permit from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives, which requires an extensive background check and a $200.00 fee for every transfer. -via wiki

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True. by ammoniacal (2.00 / 0) #18 Tue Jul 29, 2008 at 03:47:22 PM EST
A permit which they will not issue to you. Fuckers.

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