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Maybe you have to be American, or grow up in a by georgeha (4.00 / 2) #1 Mon Mar 26, 2007 at 02:35:35 PM EST

small town, to enjoy "The Last Pciture Show". That said, the sequel (Paris Texas?) did little for me.

Paris, Texas by Wim Wenders? by Dr H0ffm4n (4.00 / 2) #2 Mon Mar 26, 2007 at 02:59:16 PM EST

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: doh, Texasville by georgeha (4.00 / 2) #3 Mon Mar 26, 2007 at 03:00:52 PM EST

not Paris, Texas.

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Possibly by TheophileEscargot (4.00 / 2) #4 Mon Mar 26, 2007 at 03:28:17 PM EST

Though an awful lot of US movies seem to be about small towns and high schools.

I think the US high school thing is probably more alien. I don't the UK high schools have had anything like the big social organization that the US has. And especially not when I went to high school in the Eighties, when budgets were being cut. We had no sports teams or proms: we went there, the teachers droned on at us, we went home.
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: For far too many Americans by georgeha (4.00 / 3) #5 Mon Mar 26, 2007 at 03:49:48 PM EST

high school is the high point of their lives. It's become a mythological place, where you get an adult body but few responsibilities.
I suppose college/uni is similar, I had a far better time there than in high school, and while I have a lot of nostalgia for the student life, I still keep finding new ways to experience life and wouldn't want to go back.

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Breaking News! by leviramsey (3.50 / 4) #6 Mon Mar 26, 2007 at 04:14:45 PM EST

Kids don't see the value of education when they're sixteen!

[T]he incentives were there, but that was not enough for these children.

The average teenager thinks they're immortal and that nothing bad can possibly befall them. It's not surprising that many take the view that "I can make a great living with a 9th grade education!"

In any system where the participants cannot see the costs/incentives, they'll make suboptimal decisions. However, this does not necessarily argue for a non-market solution.

A question that I'd like to have answered is what percentage of those dropouts, say, ten years on, realize that they made a bad decision? How many now see the incentives and costs that they failed to see earlier?

The education system should be more accomodating of "non-traditional" students, such as those who once dropped out. I realize that the one-size-fits-all industrial model of education doesn't deal well with this sort of thing at all, but that only strengthens the argument against that model as well as the argument for moving towards a much more individualized education paradigm.

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It's not 'almost one whole year more of schooling' by ammoniacal (4.00 / 2) #7 Mon Mar 26, 2007 at 07:32:21 PM EST

Arizona, Montana and Wyoming require students to remain in school through a specified grade and other states require schooling until age 17, or 18, so it would appear their data are flawed.

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: Not sure if they took that into account by TheophileEscargot (4.00 / 1) #9 Tue Mar 27, 2007 at 02:06:42 AM EST

Abstract is here, but can't find the full paper.
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Updike as exotica by johnny (3.00 / 3) #8 Mon Mar 26, 2007 at 08:09:23 PM EST

I have read some stories by him, quite good; and Dear Wife read some of the Rabbit novels and read some passages of them to me aloud. Although I admire the craft, I've never felt any desire to go out and read the series. (Also, some of his stuff has been excrable. I am quite happy to forgive him for it; it was "experimental" fiction. Nevertheless, I know he's not infallible . . .)

Anyway I think it's amusing that you so enjoyed him but I said "meh", whereas I so enjoyed Anthony Powell, who merited only a "meh" from you.

Perhaps there is an element of exotica at work here.
... this is dreamworld after all... it isn't? Shit.

Some more WW2 cartoons. by wiredog (4.00 / 1) #10 Tue Mar 27, 2007 at 08:06:41 AM EST

By Bill Mauldin.

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